Liberal vs Conservatism

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Liberal vs Conservatism

Postby -PC-Taishar on Tue Dec 14, 2010 9:42 pm

Well in the end this sums up the way I feel. I don't consider myself a Republican or a Democrat, and I have argued vehemently for both parties in the past depending on the particular candidate. However, I got this in an email from a ridiculously liberal friend (I'm talking sideshow/AJ liberal) and I thought it was a good way to voice the differences. Put this way it's kind of hard to stay liberal.


A young woman was about to finish her first year of college. Like so many others her age, she considered herself to be very liberal, and among other liberal ideals, was very much in favor of higher taxes to support more government programs, in other words redistribution of wealth.

She was deeply ashamed that her father was a rather staunch conservative, a feeling she openly expressed. Based on the lectures that she had participated in, and the occasional chat with a professor, she felt that her father had for years harbored an evil, selfish desire to keep what he thought should be his.

One day she was challenging her father on his opposition to higher taxes on the rich and the need for more government programs.

The self-professed objectivity proclaimed by her professors had to be the truth and she indicated so to her father. He responded by asking how she was doing in school.

Taken aback, she answered rather haughtily that she had a 4.0 GPA, and let him know that it was tough to maintain, insisting that she was taking a very difficult course load and was constantly studying, which left her no time to go out and party like other people she knew. She didn't even have time for a boyfriend, and didn't really have many college friends because she spent all her time studying.

Her father listened and then asked, “How is your friend Audrey doing?”

She replied, “Audrey is barely getting by. All she takes are easy classes, she never studies and she barely has a 2.0 GPA. She is so popular on campus; college for her is a blast. She's always invited to all the parties and lots of times she doesn't even show up for classes because she's too hung over.”

Her wise father asked his daughter, “Why don't you go to the Dean's office and ask him to deduct 1.0 off your GPA and give it to your friend who only has a 2.0. That way you will both have a 3.0 GPA and certainly that would be a fair and equal distribution of GPA.”

The daughter, visibly shocked by her father's suggestion, angrily fired back, “That's a crazy idea, how would that be fair! I've worked really hard for my grades! I've invested a lot of time, and a lot of hard work! Audrey has done next to nothing toward her degree. She played while I worked my tail off!”

The father slowly smiled, winked and said gently, “Welcome to the conservative side of the fence.”

If anyone has a better explanation of the difference between conservative and liberal or progressive or neocon I'm all ears.


I also ran across this, which was rather funny ... in a WTF kind of way.
If a conservative doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one.
If a liberal doesn't like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.

If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn't eat meat.
If a liberal is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for everyone.

If a conservative is homosexual, he quietly leads his life.
If a liberal is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.

If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation.
A liberal wonders who is going to take care of him.

If a conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels.
Liberals demand that those they don't like be shut down.

If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn't go to church.
A liberal non-believer wants any mention of God and religion silenced. (Unless it's a foreign religion, of course!)

If a conservative decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for it, or may choose a job that provides it.
A liberal demands that the rest of us pay for his.

If a conservative reads this, he'll forward it so his friends can have a good laugh.
A liberal will delete it because he's "offended."

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Re: Liberal vs Conservatism

Postby zel on Wed Dec 15, 2010 1:54 am

I heartily agree with both stories :P i know i'll get flamed and i'm not even going to respond to any flaming but i do bust my ass workin a job that pretty much enslaves me but does pay well however I only take home about 75% of what i earn. Now, i don't break 100k a year, not even close but yet thats my take-home from what I earn, about 75% though a small amount is health insurance / life insurance / union dues.

We recently got a $400 bonus, of which after taxes i got $250.... thats just over half.... so i barely get over half of my bonus and the rest went to taxes... :(

Now if you make like 5 or 10 million a year it's not so bad cause you still have millions but damnit, when you're maybe making 60k a year it sucks ass.

ehhh... just seems like i'm working to support other people when i can barely support my family at the moment.

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Re: Liberal vs Conservatism

Postby -wicked-toon-X on Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:31 am

the problem is no matter how much i may agree with that one point i can't go along with the rest of the tards
that comprise the "conservatives"

if only there was a way to force some sort of vote by each individual subject. instead of having to
pick a whole bunch of ideas and having to not like half of them.

that's exactly how bills are created. instead of bills per subject they put a ton of completely different
subjects into one bill.

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Re: Liberal vs Conservatism

Postby HangOver on Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:09 am

-wicked-toon-X wrote:that's exactly how bills are created. instead of bills per subject they put a ton of completely different
subjects into one bill.


that's the beauty of our governmental process. it basically assures that nothing ever actually gets accomplished but keeps our politicians employed and rich. you know, that whole "for the people" thing ...

both sides are retarded. both sides are the problem.

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Re: Liberal vs Conservatism

Postby -PC-Taishar on Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:03 pm

Well toon. That's what conservatism is all about. Smaller, LOCAL, government. When you put the majority of power and decisions in the hands of people in DC they are never answerable to their constituents. Empower the PEOPLE again, and you'll start having your voice heard on individual topics. Until then we are all nobodies.


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